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This site introduces unknown composer Emanuel Bach (C. P. E. Bach). This English version was translated from Japanese one by ChatGPT.

Schumannʼs Evaluation of Emanuel Bach

ChatGPT4o writes as follows (please note that it may not be accurate):

I asked ChatGPT4o: “How did Schumann evaluate Emanuel Bach?”

Robert Schumann held Emanuel Bach in very high regard. His admiration for Bachʼs creativity and unique expressiveness is evident in his critiques and letters.

Key Points of Schumannʼs Evaluation

  1. Importance as a Composer

    • Schumann considered Emanuel Bach to be an extremely important composer who bridged the Baroque and Classical periods. He understood that Bachʼs music sought new expressions beyond the confines of its time.

  2. Innovativeness in Music

    • Schumann noted that Emanuel Bachʼs music was unorthodox, free, and passionate. The richness of expression in his keyboard works, particularly in the Empfindsamer Stil, may have influenced Schumannʼs own style.

  3. Influence on Piano Music

    • Emanuel Bachʼs works for the clavichord and fortepiano are thought to have influenced 19th-century piano music. Schumann seemed to regard him as an important figure who influenced later composers, including Beethoven.

  4. Specific Mentions

    • In Schumannʼs critiques, Emanuel Bachʼs works are sometimes described as “true expressions of art,” and he believed they deserved to be re-evaluated as living music rather than mere relics of the past.

    • For example, in his music journal Neue Zeitschrift für Musik, Schumann gave positive evaluations of Emanuel Bachʼs works.

Schumann himself was a composer who sought new expressions while respecting tradition, which may explain his affinity for Emanuel Bachʼs music.



I asked ChatGPT4o: “Which of Schumannʼs works are thought to have been influenced by Emanuel Bachʼs music?”

Schumannʼs music shows influences from Emanuel Bach in several aspects. Particularly, the freedom of expression, improvisational elements, emotional fluctuations in the Empfindsamer Stil, and asymmetrical phrase structures in Schumannʼs keyboard music are commonalities with Emanuel Bachʼs works. Below, we explore specific Schumann works that may have been influenced by Bach.

1. “Fantasiestücke” Op. 12 (1837)

2. “Kreisleriana” Op. 16 (1838)

3. “Fantasy” Op. 17 (1836)

4. “Symphonic Etudes” Op. 13 (1834–1835)

5. “Carnaval” Op. 9 (1834–1835)

Overall Consideration

While there was no direct relationship between Emanuel Bach and Schumann, it is quite possible that Schumann studied Bachʼs music and absorbed his expressive techniques and freedom of emotional expression.

Particularly, Schumannʼs fantastical and improvisational works, collections of short character pieces, abrupt dynamic changes, and asymmetrical phrases can be considered influenced by Emanuel Bach.

Listening to Emanuel Bachʼs fantasias and sonatas in comparison to Schumannʼs music may offer new insights into understanding Schumannʼs music more deeply.



I asked ChatGPT4o: “If Schumann considered Emanuel Bachʼs works to be worth re-evaluating as living music, did this lead to actions such as organizing concerts?”

Even if Schumann considered Emanuel Bachʼs works to be worth re-evaluating as living music, it seems that this did not lead to concrete actions such as organizing concerts. Several possibilities could explain this.

1. Direction of Schumannʼs Musical Activities

Schumann primarily focused on his own composition activities and music criticism, with his role centered more as a composer and critic rather than a performer. While he promoted the re-evaluation of past composers, including Emanuel Bach, in his journal Neue Zeitschrift für Musik, it rarely translated into organizing concerts.

2. “Performability” of Emanuel Bachʼs Works

In Schumannʼs time, Baroque and early Classical works were not frequently performed. Particularly, Emanuel Bachʼs keyboard works, written for the clavichord and fortepiano, were possibly considered unsuitable for performance on the modern piano that became mainstream in the 19th century.

3. Reception of the Bach Familyʼs Works

In early 19th-century Germany, the re-evaluation of J.S. Bach was advanced through Felix Mendelssohnʼs activities, but Emanuel Bach often remained in the shadows.

4. Preferences of the Audience at the Time

19th-century audiences favored works by Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin, and Schumann himself, among others from the Romantic and Classical periods.

Conclusion

While Schumann valued Emanuel Bachʼs music in terms of music criticism and research, it seems that this did not translate into concert activities.

However, Schumannʼs interest in Emanuel Bach may have been one of the catalysts for later generations of musicians and researchers to re-evaluate his works.



I asked ChatGPT4o: “Did Schumann ever express critical opinions about Emanuel Bach?”

While Schumann generally held Emanuel Bach in high regard, he did not unconditionally praise him and did express some critical opinions.

1. Inconsistency in Style and Extreme Expression

Emanuel Bachʼs music, characterized by the Empfindsamer Stil, features sudden modulations, contrasts in dynamics, and asymmetrical phrase structures, which Schumann may have found excessive at times.

2. Criticism of Melody Handling

Schumann is said to have felt that Emanuel Bachʼs melodies were sometimes unnatural and lacked coherence.

3. “Excessiveness” in Emotional Expression

Although Schumann himself wrote works with intense emotional fluctuations, he may have found the emotional expression in Emanuel Bachʼs music to be “too excessive.”

4. Comparison with J.S. Bach

Schumann deeply respected J.S. Bach and highly valued his counterpoint and structural prowess.

Conclusion

While Schumann regarded Emanuel Bach as a “musical innovator,” he may have been critical of the following aspects:

  1. Inconsistency in Style and Extreme Expression
    → Lack of formal unity and excessive abrupt changes.

  2. Unnaturalness of Melody
    → Fragmented melodies with poor flow.

  3. Excessiveness in Emotional Expression
    → Overly intense emotional fluctuations lacking unity.

  4. Comparison with J.S. Bach
    → Lacking the structural beauty and logic of J.S. Bach.

Schumann considered Emanuel Bach not merely a composer of the past but a “figure worthy of re-evaluation,” yet his views did not completely align with his own musical philosophy, leading to partial criticism.



I asked ChatGPT4o: “Did Schumann ever make critical remarks about specific works of Emanuel Bach?”

There are no records of Robert Schumann making direct criticisms of specific works by Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach (C.P.E. Bach).However, while Schumann appreciated C.P.E. Bachʼs creativity, he did point out the difference in stature as a musician compared to his father, Johann Sebastian Bach (J.S. Bach).Specifically, he remarked, “As a creative musician, he is far too different in stature from his father.” note.com+4ameblo.jp+4mdf-ks.com+4ja.wikipedia.orgsakimura.org+1ja.wikipedia.org+1

This evaluation is considered one of the reasons C.P.E. Bach became somewhat forgotten in the 19th century.Schumann was an influential critic at the time, and his opinions likely had a significant impact on the music world.However, Schumannʼs evaluation was not a blanket dismissal of C.P.E. Bachʼs entire body of work but rather a perspective on his overall creativity and stature as a musician.sakimura.org



I asked ChatGPT4o: “What aspects of Sebastian Bach did Schumann appreciate?”

Robert Schumann held Johann Sebastian Bach (J.S. Bach) in extremely high regard. In his critiques, letters, and musical activities, he particularly emphasized the following points.

1. Mastery of Counterpoint

Schumann praised Bachʼs mastery of counterpoint.

2. Perfection of Structure and Musical Unity

Schumann valued the formal perfection in Bachʼs music.

3. Depth of Emotional Expression

As a Romantic composer, Schumann emphasized emotional expression in music and believed that Bachʼs music was rich in this element.

4. Contribution to the Bach Revival in the 19th Century

Schumann was concerned that Bachʼs works were becoming forgotten in the 19th century and contributed to the Bach revival movement.

5. Educational Value of Bachʼs Works

Schumann believed that Bachʼs music was indispensable for the training of composers and performers.

Summary

Schumannʼs high regard for Bach was based on the following elements:

  1. Excellence in Counterpoint
    → Perfect polyphony and structural beauty.

  2. Perfection and Unity of Structure
    → Fusion of mathematical precision and artistic sensibility.

  3. Depth of Emotional Expression
    → Rich spiritual and inner expression.

  4. Interest in Bach Revival
    → Promoting the re-evaluation of Bachʼs music alongside Mendelssohn.

  5. High Educational Value
    → Essential works for the foundational training of musicians.

Schumann considered Bachʼs works not merely as relics of the past but as “music that continues to live in the present,” actively studying and striving to convey their value.

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